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07/08/2014

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John Cowan

In Oxford (and, I suppose, Cambridge), the focus of up and down trains is the university rather than London. Hence the legendary Dr. Spooner's remark to an erring undergraduate: "You have deliberately tasted two worms and may leave Oxford by the town drain."

Peter Harvey

John, you are absolutely right. I was at Cambridge, and 'going up' meant going there for the start of a term and 'going down' was leaving at the start of the vacation. I am not from London but I think that 'up' and 'down' were more to do with University residence (we had to spend a certain number of nights in the city each term) than with simple travel there and back.

Alon

The claim that arrive can only be used with prepositions indicating position, not movement, should be tempered by the observation that it frequently collocates with from.

Peter Harvey

Alon, You are of course perfectly right -- how could I say otherwise? Also, problems can arrive out of the blue.

However, I am principally concerned here with teaching students how to use prepositions with arrive, especially Spanish-speaking ones who think of llegar a.

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